Abuse by TheGrouchDe

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Abuse by TheGrouchDe

Post by mreza » 09 Feb 2019, 13:15

Now we see what will u do against this kind of behaviour , he called me stupid and i really got hurt of using such word abt me .
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Re: Abuse by TheGrouchDe

Post by Dr.MonaLisa » 09 Feb 2019, 13:48

Punishments are based on the Department of Control's statement from 24 Sep 2017: viewtopic.php?p=20520#p20520
Dr.MonaLisa wrote:
24 Sep 2017, 22:06
Just to make things clear:
- I'm against the full censorship of the Lobby. Insults like "u stupid", "u retard", "fuck you" are normal in Multiplayer communities, so this isn't something punishable. Players have rights to throw their emotions, but everything has it's limits....
- Of course if those insults are abused (like not only when you're angry), then it's punishable.
- The most intolerant on the Lobby are racists insults, about other players countries, about other player's family members, etc. Then it goes on an unacceptable level where an interference of moderators is needed.
Not to mention that I also think you're stupid based on:
284816 2019-01-31 16:56:11 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
284817 2019-01-31 16:56:17 mreza he left poor guy
284818 2019-01-31 16:56:22 jasoon32 better
284819 2019-01-31 16:56:25 mreza death death death
284820 2019-01-31 16:56:28 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
284821 2019-01-31 16:56:34 mreza death to america
284822 2019-01-31 16:56:44 mreza death to devil america
284823 2019-01-31 16:56:45 jasoon32 me host
284824 2019-01-31 16:56:46 Coo1 I must stop this harassment
284825 2019-01-31 16:56:50 jasoon32 come me
284826 2019-01-31 16:56:51 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
You've been protecting this behavior in topic: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=5177
So, if you couldn't admit that it was wrong, then don't cry when people make their opinions about you.
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Dr.MonaLisa
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Re: Abuse by TheGrouchDe

Post by TheGrouchDE » 09 Feb 2019, 13:51

First off. Yes, i did indeed use that word to him. But as seen on the screenshot i didn't say that to him right off the bat but only after him provoking me about how he is proud for being muted for 14 days on the lobby chat for using racist terms in the public lobby chat decided by the Department of Control(Mona), resulting out of the report from Coo1 on the 31th January 2019: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=5177
Too that are sentences like "you're stupid" or similar terms quite popular in multiplayer communities. In such cases is usually no punishment needed if not used repepitive against the same player or many players. And too that is the word "stupid" no really powerful insult in which cases you might aswell just ignore it.

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Re: Abuse by TheGrouchDe

Post by mreza » 09 Feb 2019, 14:52

ok i have done that and i got muted for 2 weeks . then what's others right to come and insult me . are you really ok that if we use bad words for other members and notthing will happen ?

Added after 2 minutes 24 seconds:
i said america is bad i still say it and i will say but i didnt insult anyone . if insulting is ok with ur terms then i know what to do from now . only reply me one word . is insulting ok or it will make that person banned from somethings ?

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Re: Abuse by TheGrouchDe

Post by Dr.MonaLisa » 09 Feb 2019, 15:14

[2019-02-09 12:37:41] TheGrouchDE: Wow. You're stupid.
[2019-02-09 12:37:29] Eagle: are upset of that ?
[2019-02-09 12:37:13] Eagle: bec im famous
[2019-02-09 12:37:02] TheGrouchDE: Why should I?
[2019-02-09 12:36:44] Eagle: yes i am , are you glad to meet me ?
[2019-02-09 12:28:21] TheGrouchDE: t* mreza - 14 days mute (until 15 February 2019). You're still muted until the 15. February.
[2019-02-09 12:26:25] TheGrouchDE: Ah, you're mreza
[2019-02-09 12:25:43] TheGrouchDE: Are you jasoon?
[2019-02-09 12:24:33] Eagle: till when im muted ?
[2019-02-09 12:24:21] Eagle: in multi player is there only one room ?
[2019-02-09 12:22:12] Eagle: Hi
TheGrouch politely answered to your question about the mute length (although you could have checked it in the forum topic).
As an award for him for spending time searching for this useless information, you provoked him with disrespectful messages like "are you glad to meet me", "are upset of that".
It's clearly a provocation and if I were him I would have already banned you from the Support Chat, which is supposed to help players with technical problems, not to get a direct contact with the Ministry of Game Affairs.
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Re: Abuse by TheGrouchDe

Post by mreza » 09 Feb 2019, 15:29

Then i dont know who is the racist one ? You easily talk abt a country and people like this that we are murders while many different religions are living in our country in peace , but we muslims have many problems in your country they are not free to wear what ever they like . you really showed your self . yes the truth is some times bitter . so u have no way so you ban and mute the voice of truth .
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Re: Abuse by TheGrouchDe

Post by Dr.MonaLisa » 09 Feb 2019, 15:53

Full conversation:
[2019-02-09 15:26:01] Dr.MonaLisa: Keep brining politics to it.
[2019-02-09 15:25:49] Dr.MonaLisa: What I hate is putting insults on country levels.
[2019-02-09 15:25:37] TheGrouchDE: Im afk.
[2019-02-09 15:25:22] TheGrouchDE: He is worse than jasoon
[2019-02-09 15:25:06] Dr.MonaLisa: He might end up worse than jasoon
[2019-02-09 15:24:40] TheGrouchDE: Brb
[2019-02-09 15:24:34] TheGrouchDE: Yeah. Like i would accept him to repeat his racist comments on this chat.
[2019-02-09 15:24:01] Dr.MonaLisa: Finally
[2019-02-09 15:23:47] TheGrouchDE: He won't be able to read anymore.
[2019-02-09 15:23:34] Dr.MonaLisa: So stop fooling.
[2019-02-09 15:23:31] Dr.MonaLisa: Polish girl in Iran would be killed for being Christian.
[2019-02-09 15:23:06] Elijah: i close it
[2019-02-09 15:22:59] Elijah: np
[2019-02-09 15:22:52] TheGrouchDE: Sorry Elijiah
[2019-02-09 15:22:47] Eagle: and she played with my life for 2 years and nothing she done for me
[2019-02-09 15:22:37] TheGrouchDE: Lol
[2019-02-09 15:22:36] TheGrouchDE: EOps
[2019-02-09 15:22:29] Eagle: bec i was in love in a polish girl
[2019-02-09 15:22:14] Eagle: im only respecting u
[2019-02-09 15:22:09] Eagle: monalisa
[2019-02-09 15:22:04] Eagle: what can u do for me
[2019-02-09 15:21:58] Eagle: yes i have very sad life
[2019-02-09 15:21:40] TheGrouchDE: Aaand Goodbye
[2019-02-09 15:21:20] Eagle: yes i wish death for all guily governments one of them america not nations
[2019-02-09 15:21:14] TheGrouchDE: As i said before, Eagle, i don't care about that.
[2019-02-09 15:20:45] Dr.MonaLisa: Only people with really sad life would do that.
[2019-02-09 15:20:34] Eagle: did u like it ?
[2019-02-09 15:20:34] Dr.MonaLisa: Also it's pretty low to comment somebody's life with 0 actual information.
[2019-02-09 15:20:30] Eagle: so i also politly call stupids
[2019-02-09 15:20:23] Eagle: if he was polite !
[2019-02-09 15:20:03] Dr.MonaLisa: If it's such a big issue for you.
[2019-02-09 15:19:59] TheGrouchDE: By the way. You're not just against the Americans, you said in public that you wished them DEATH. And that's different as to say "I don't like the Americans"
[2019-02-09 15:19:48] Dr.MonaLisa: Any problem? You can quit this patch.
[2019-02-09 15:19:36] Eagle: *guilty
[2019-02-09 15:19:30] Eagle: *guily
[2019-02-09 15:19:28] Dr.MonaLisa: viewtopic.php?p=24517#p24517
[2019-02-09 15:19:06] Eagle: and by the way urselves insult people and u defend guily governments
[2019-02-09 15:18:39] Eagle: ok dont care then why u bann bec of it
[2019-02-09 15:18:15] Eagle: loos shodan ina fekr kardan ki hastan eli
[2019-02-09 15:18:05] TheGrouchDE: Against? Then how about you don't write it in public in the lobby or in this chat. Then we wouldn't care
[2019-02-09 15:17:46] Eagle: no we cant
[2019-02-09 15:17:26] Eagle: i know u r spending something more than money on the game and its ur life
[2019-02-09 15:17:21] Dr.MonaLisa: Can you go openly in Iran and say "Death to Iran" on the street?
[2019-02-09 15:16:55] Eagle: and none of ur business if we are against ameria or with other nations
[2019-02-09 15:16:53] Dr.MonaLisa: And btw. I paid more from my own in first years than got in donations.
[2019-02-09 15:16:19] Dr.MonaLisa: Then it's none of ur business how much donations we get from others.
[2019-02-09 15:16:13] Eagle: we spend it on people who are in need of money
[2019-02-09 15:15:49] Eagle: ofcourse bec we dont spend our money for games
[2019-02-09 15:15:47] Elijah: eagle bikhial
[2019-02-09 15:15:33] Dr.MonaLisa: if you're interested in it so much.
[2019-02-09 15:15:28] Dr.MonaLisa: Eagle, from your region 0 donations during last 6 years
[2019-02-09 15:15:03] Eagle: this much u like you spent ur time and ur life for it not for ur family ?
[2019-02-09 15:14:38] TheGrouchDE: Don't know. Ask Mona. But i guess some dollars in the month. Can't say if it's correct though.
[2019-02-09 15:13:51] Eagle: how much are these donations
[2019-02-09 15:12:49] TheGrouchDE: The reason we keep improving the game is simple. We just like the game very much.
[2019-02-09 15:12:18] TheGrouchDE: Nope. We, or specifically Mona gets only donations.
[2019-02-09 15:12:06] Elijah: ok mona
[2019-02-09 15:11:48] Eagle: bec u spending ur life on it
[2019-02-09 15:11:45] Dr.MonaLisa: Look how he reported.
[2019-02-09 15:11:38] Eagle: this online game
[2019-02-09 15:11:36] Dr.MonaLisa: example topic: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=5163
[2019-02-09 15:11:33] Dr.MonaLisa: Elijah
You are keep bringing politics and countries. You lie about some "girl" just to start another provocation, so you get an adequate answer.
Learn to live politics-free and leave your hate to other countries at home.
Also, insulting my private life is something very low. Just because I can spend a few hours per month to prepare an update. You put someone's dedication to provide quick replies (even when focused on other things) as something negative. This is the whole you, keep trying to provoke, keep trying offend people who give you a lot of things for free, people who don't care what country you're from and not put restrictions as in your local law.

I'm done with you. If you continue to offend anyone else, wishing death to governments (which members are PEOPLE as well) you will end up banned, not muted.

The topic is now closed. There is no point to continue it.
Best regards,
Dr.MonaLisa
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