Abuse by Jasoon32+mreza+terminator19191919

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Abuse by Jasoon32+mreza+terminator19191919

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Just reporting that there are narrow minded imbeciles out there. I care less if they are muted or not, just tired of being nice and being harassed.
I am not sure I got all screenshots, but the chat log is available for moderators to check.
A simple warning would shower these people with cold reality.
Regards, Coo1

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Re: Abuse by Jasoon3+mreza+terminator19191919

Post by Dr.MonaLisa »

Thank you for your report.

As requested, here's the Private Messages log between you and the other players:
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190052 2019-01-31 15:35:12 mreza Coo1 hi
190053 2019-01-31 15:35:25 mreza Coo1 join my game
190054 2019-01-31 15:35:31 mreza Coo1 hello ?
190055 2019-01-31 15:46:37 Coo1 mreza great game !
190056 2019-01-31 15:46:40 mreza Coo1 hey friend tnx for letting me to win
190057 2019-01-31 15:46:45 Coo1 mreza want one of real map games?
190059 2019-01-31 16:03:44 mreza Coo1 start a game
190060 2019-01-31 16:03:58 Coo1 mreza YOUR GAME NOW
190061 2019-01-31 16:04:26 Coo1 mreza I am going to change to your settings
190063 2019-01-31 16:08:11 Coo1 *uRs*destajador(`;-;`) come -- your game
190064 2019-01-31 16:08:20 Coo1 ~eW`~>Matty come your game
190065 2019-01-31 16:08:25 Coo1 ~eW`~>Matty 2v2
190066 2019-01-31 16:08:29 Coo1 ~eW`~>Matty your sets
190067 2019-01-31 16:08:37 Coo1 *uRs*destajador(`;-;`) 2v2 your sets
190068 2019-01-31 16:09:11 ~eW`~>Matty Coo1 hey how are you? I am too rusty to play yet XD
190069 2019-01-31 16:09:26 Coo1 ~eW`~>Matty it is easy game
190070 2019-01-31 16:09:49 Coo1 ~eW`~>Matty come to OBSERVE?
190071 2019-01-31 16:09:54 ~eW`~>Matty Coo1 yeah sure
190072 2019-01-31 16:10:39 ~eW`~>Matty Coo1 it gives me error. wonder why
190073 2019-01-31 16:10:46 Coo1 ~eW`~>Matty try again
190078 2019-01-31 16:29:20 Coo1 mreza gg -- thank you
190079 2019-01-31 16:29:43 Coo1 mreza come play again? you did well in the beginning
190080 2019-01-31 16:30:03 Coo1 ~eW`~>Matty did you enjoy the game/
190081 2019-01-31 16:30:16 ~eW`~>Matty Coo1 yeah that was nice
190108 2019-01-31 16:38:35 Coo1 Misterene hey, friend -- com eplay?
190152 2019-01-31 16:49:28 terminator19191919 Coo1 YOU ONLY WANNA PLAY TO YOUR ADVANTAGE
190153 2019-01-31 16:49:31 terminator19191919 Coo1 FOOL
190156 2019-01-31 16:49:55 Coo1 terminator19191919 please do not insult
190159 2019-01-31 16:56:28 Coo1 terminator19191919 g
190160 2019-01-31 16:56:34 jasoon32 Coo1 Death to imperialist Americans
190161 2019-01-31 16:56:45 terminator19191919 Coo1 hahahahhahahaha
190162 2019-01-31 16:56:54 terminator19191919 Coo1 so dumb
190166 2019-01-31 16:58:16 terminator19191919 Coo1 join here brat
190178 2019-01-31 17:00:07 terminator19191919 Coo1 weepy whinny fretful
190182 2019-01-31 17:01:28 Coo1 mreza I have denied your request to add me to your list
190186 2019-01-31 17:01:41 mreza Coo1 come here
190188 2019-01-31 17:01:50 Coo1 mreza sorry no now
190189 2019-01-31 17:01:59 mreza Coo1 why u upset ?
190190 2019-01-31 17:02:09 mreza Coo1 are u woman ?
190195 2019-01-31 17:03:01 Coo1 mreza I am upset because of players like you
190197 2019-01-31 17:03:12 mreza Coo1 plz are u a girl ?
190200 2019-01-31 17:03:31 Coo1 mreza please no personal questions
190203 2019-01-31 17:03:58 mreza Coo1 i wanna make friendship with u is it bad ?
190204 2019-01-31 17:04:04 Coo1 mreza if you continue to harass me I would have no choice but to report you
190209 2019-01-31 17:04:23 Coo1 mreza please have a nice time playing the game and leave me alone
190210 2019-01-31 17:04:42 mreza Coo1 what the hell can u do
190211 2019-01-31 17:05:00 mreza Coo1 im gonna report u too
190215 2019-01-31 17:13:38 Coo1 <<*TOP*>>Tojo hello (^_^) -- peace?
190216 2019-01-31 17:13:49 <<*TOP*>>Tojo Coo1 peace
190217 2019-01-31 17:13:52 Coo1 <<*TOP*>>Tojo sorry I was not correct
190218 2019-01-31 17:14:24 <<*TOP*>>Tojo Coo1 me neither
190219 2019-01-31 17:15:12 Coo1 <<*TOP*>>Tojo would you like to play 2v2 with me against others (your settings)?
190220 2019-01-31 17:16:16 <<*TOP*>>Tojo Coo1 Let it be like we did play.
190221 2019-01-31 17:16:56 <<*TOP*>>Tojo Coo1 I'm waititng for that other game to finish, i want to meet those old palyers
190222 2019-01-31 17:17:07 <<*TOP*>>Tojo Coo1 matty and roxxor
190223 2019-01-31 17:18:13 Coo1 <<*TOP*>>Tojo OK np
190227 2019-01-31 17:20:54 terminator19191919 Coo1 JOIN HERE LADY
190228 2019-01-31 17:20:58 terminator19191919 Coo1 HERE IS SO NICE
190229 2019-01-31 17:21:08 terminator19191919 Coo1 MANY PEOPLE FIGHTINH
190230 2019-01-31 17:21:59 Coo1 king321 we play slow -- I teach you
190232 2019-01-31 17:22:20 Coo1 longvh2k we play slow -- I teach you
Here's the Lobby chat:
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284810 2019-01-31 16:35:55 Coo1 there are 3 players and I have 3 open slots for the game
284811 2019-01-31 16:36:28 Coo1 there are 3 players and I have 3 open slots for the game
284812 2019-01-31 16:44:28 mreza revrenge
284813 2019-01-31 16:47:24 terminator19191919 THIS IS NICE
284814 2019-01-31 16:47:27 terminator19191919 TO TRAIN
284815 2019-01-31 16:48:09 ThorODestruidor my version is 1.5, sorry
284816 2019-01-31 16:56:11 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
284817 2019-01-31 16:56:17 mreza he left poor guy
284818 2019-01-31 16:56:22 jasoon32 better
284819 2019-01-31 16:56:25 mreza death death death
284820 2019-01-31 16:56:28 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
284821 2019-01-31 16:56:34 mreza death to america
284822 2019-01-31 16:56:44 mreza death to devil america
284823 2019-01-31 16:56:45 jasoon32 me host
284824 2019-01-31 16:56:46 Coo1 I must stop this harassment
284825 2019-01-31 16:56:50 jasoon32 come me
284826 2019-01-31 16:56:51 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
284827 2019-01-31 16:57:07 mreza coo1 what are u scared from ?
284828 2019-01-31 16:57:21 mreza hahaaa coo1 is a loser !
284829 2019-01-31 16:57:29 jasoon32 reza come to terminator
284830 2019-01-31 16:57:35 |uRs|>R_Empire he just a civilian
284831 2019-01-31 16:58:00 jasoon32 u bad host man
284832 2019-01-31 16:58:11 |uRs|>R_Empire hola comp
284833 2019-01-31 16:58:16 *uRs*destajador(`;-;`) q onda
284834 2019-01-31 16:58:19 jasoon32 hola
284835 2019-01-31 16:58:19 *uRs*destajador(`;-;`) compa
284836 2019-01-31 16:58:23 |uRs|>R_Empire q tal
284837 2019-01-31 16:58:29 *uRs*destajador(`;-;`) ahi de ahuevo
284838 2019-01-31 16:58:37 |uRs|>R_Empire lol
284839 2019-01-31 16:58:55 jasoon32 desta and guys come me
284840 2019-01-31 17:19:39 terminator19191919 VERY NICE GAME
Based on it, the Department of Control has decided to punish the following players ex officio:

* jasoon32 - 365 days mute (until 01 February 2020). Long punishment due to repeating racism, which was already punished in the past: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=1834
NOTE: jasoon32's mute will be changed into ban if he continues racist insults in game rooms or if he host games with offensive titles.

* mreza - 14 days mute (until 15 February 2019). Shorter punishment, because it happened for the first time, and most likely copied demoralized behavior of jasoon32.

It's for the following:
284816 2019-01-31 16:56:11 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
284817 2019-01-31 16:56:17 mreza he left poor guy
284818 2019-01-31 16:56:22 jasoon32 better
284819 2019-01-31 16:56:25 mreza death death death
284820 2019-01-31 16:56:28 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
284821 2019-01-31 16:56:34 mreza death to america
284822 2019-01-31 16:56:44 mreza death to devil america
284823 2019-01-31 16:56:45 jasoon32 me host
284824 2019-01-31 16:56:46 Coo1 I must stop this harassment
284825 2019-01-31 16:56:50 jasoon32 come me
284826 2019-01-31 16:56:51 jasoon32 Death to imperialist Americans
Punishments are based on the Department of Control's statement from 24 Sep 2017: viewtopic.php?p=20520#p20520
Dr.MonaLisa wrote: 24 Sep 2017, 22:06 Just to make things clear:
- I'm against the full censorship of the Lobby. Insults like "u stupid", "u retard", "fuck you" are normal in Multiplayer communities, so this isn't something punishable. Players have rights to throw their emotions, but everything has it's limits....
- Of course if those insults are abused (like not only when you're angry), then it's punishable.
- The most intolerant on the Lobby are racists insults, about other players countries, about other player's family members, etc. Then it goes on an unacceptable level where an interference of moderators is needed.


The Department of Justice will decide what to do with "terminator19191919", as his behavior at least wasn't racist.

However, Coo1 - I think you should have used the "Ignore" button on those players who chatted you on private, to not provoke further conflicts.
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Re: Abuse by Jasoon3+mreza+terminator19191919

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Is it too late to say sorry?, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, Mighty Terminator was only chilling out with the new friend Coo1, that's they way I play around with my colleagues, I do apologize if I overdo or spoiled the beautiful relationships our kingdoms have, I hope this does not stop the game motivation. Mighty Terminator is always willing to engage a diplomatic dialogue and let the peace flourish among our nations even though we all know Mighty Terminator is the most powerful and influential Kingdom. I hope you get the pain out of your heart and be friends again for the sake of others kingdoms involved Thanks

regards.. Mighty Terminator
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I agree, I already feel sorry for this incident. Is there any mercy left? Please do not mute for such long time, if at all. A warning for a week would be sufficient in imho.
It.feels too harsh.
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Re: Abuse by Jasoon32+mreza+terminator19191919

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Thank you "MightyTerminator". Your apology has been accepted. Your case most likely will be remitted (needs confirmation from the Minister of the Department of Justice).
Coo1 wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 02:35 I agree, I already feel sorry for this incident. Is there any mercy left? Please do not mute for such long time, if at all. A warning for a week would be sufficient in imho.
It.feels too harsh.
Regards Coo1
Your report regarding jasoon32 and mreza was checked by the Department of Control "ex officio". It's because messages they sent are racist and offensive for all players from the USA. "Ex officio" means that any Department at Ministry of Game Affairs has rights to start the case against certain players (even without receiving reports). It's to protect all players from being offended, not to punish for insults on just 1 player.

If jasoon32 or mreza think that the punishment is incorrect - they can post an appeal. After that the Department of Justice will decide if the Department of Control judged it correctly.
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MightyTerminator wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 02:29 Is it too late to say sorry?, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, Mighty Terminator was only chilling out with the new friend Coo1, that's they way I play around with my colleagues, I do apologize if I overdo or spoiled the beautiful relationships our kingdoms have, I hope this does not stop the game motivation. Mighty Terminator is always willing to engage a diplomatic dialogue and let the peace flourish among our nations even though we all know Mighty Terminator is the most powerful and influential Kingdom. I hope you get the pain out of your heart and be friends again for the sake of others kingdoms involved Thanks

regards.. Mighty Terminator
Perfect! Bear in mind that they won't be accepted again though... try to control yourself then.

From now on I definitely hope witch-hunt reports and hypocrisy does not reign in our community...
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Re: Abuse by Jasoon32+mreza+terminator19191919

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Omg . what kind of people you are ?! you dont understand what is joke or friendly talks ? its good for me that i know people specially from usa and eurpoe that how much they have capacity to talk with and if we said down to america its to their government bec any wise person in this world can see today what are they doing to our countries in middle east and how they make wars and kills us and how they make money by selling their weapons in these wars . not to you mr or mrs Coo1 . and if you see from begining i had a freindly talk to you and i didnt insult and even if you saw that we are bothering you , you could ignore as the mr dr.Monalisa said so it wasnt needed to make this long story for us and bring people here to call us Racist which is better to be called by it western people ! if we were racist by all these negative propagandas which your media makes about our countries and people , when tourists come here they wouldnt find us completely different people than what your media made of us and they find us so friendly and they enjoy our hospitality then you come here and call us Racist ?!
And you Dr. monalisa if you taking it this much serious i wasnt knowing you can record all the members conversations even in private and easily you come and put it in public so maybe i will complain from you . Greetings from Iran to all Free people around the world .
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mreza wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 10:38 Omg . what kind of people you are ?! you dont understand what is joke or friendly talks ? its good for me that i know people specially from usa and eurpoe that how much they have capacity to talk with and if we said down to america its to their government bec any wise person in this world can see today what are they doing to our countries in middle east and how they make wars and kills us and how they make money by selling their weapons in these wars . not to you mr or mrs Coo1 . and if you see from begining i had a freindly talk to you and i didnt insult and even if you saw that we are bothering you , you could ignore as the mr dr.Monalisa said so it wasnt needed to make this long story for us and bring people here to call us Racist which is better to be called by it western people ! if we were racist by all these negative propagandas which your media makes about our countries and people , when tourists come here they wouldnt find us completely different people than what your media made of us and they find us so friendly and they enjoy our hospitality then you come here and call us Racist ?!
And you Dr. monalisa if you taking it this much serious i wasnt knowing you can record all the members conversations even in private and easily you come and put it in public so maybe i will complain from you . Greetings from Iran to all Free people around the world .
The Private Messages log has been accessed on Coo1's request. It's not a conversation of players unrelated with this case. If you disagree with the Decision of the Department of Control - you can write an appeal in this topic which will be checked by the Department of Justice.

It would be better for you to write as "I", not "We".
Jasoon32 has already been punished multiple times for the same "jokes" (which I'm afraid are not jokes).
He wished "death to America", "death to Israel", etc.
Screenshots can be checked in this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=1834

On 7th December, jasoon32 claimed to be "nazi from Iran", and wrote other pro-nazi things. Screenshot:
EE2_ScreenShot401.jpg
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For me those things are unacceptable (maybe weren't punishable back then), but it shows the overall image of this player.

In my opinion you just joined the racist messages without the knowledge of jasoon32's intentions. So if you want to defend yourself, you shouldn't put yourself in the same situation as jasoon32.

I'm also not sure how potential anti-Iranian media in USA are related to the EE2.eu Server, where players are logging-in to have fun, no matter what political party they voted on. When an ordinary player from the USA joins the Lobby for the first time, and sees such a spam with racist stuff from Iranian players, then most likely thinks bad about our community and never comes back. The Ministry of Game Affairs will do everything to make the EE2.eu Multiplayer Services friendly for all players, no matter what countries they live in. If there was the same report created with a different player wishing "death to Iran" - the reaction would be the same.

Private Messages log is collected due to GameSpy offline messages support on some games. It is usually shared to verify if screenshots weren't faked and to show the overall conversation context. This log is viewed and shared only on the player's request and only in cases like this one. If you disagree with the actions made by the Department of Control - please post an appeal in this topic, then someone else will decide.
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anyhow i wasnt knowing abt Jasoon's behave even i dont know him and its not related to me what he had done but im sure even by these words he wanted to made fun because in iran we dont have racist in that meaning you have in west .
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mreza wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 11:39 anyhow i wasnt knowing abt Jasoon's behave even i dont know him and its not related to me what he had done but im sure even by these words he wanted to made fun because in iran we dont have racist in that meaning you have in west .
Are we going to discuss now if word "racist" is suitable for offending other players countries?

What happened happened. Nobody has doubts that what you (both) have wrote is unacceptable.

Instead of making excuses and theories about American media you could've apologized. I didn't see any "sorry" from your side. You choose to defend insults and calling them "jokes"...
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