You didn't quit. You got kicked few hours ago, after you kicked me out of Discord Server where you were the owner.
It ruined all the work I put into it as the BOT lost the permissions, webhook tokens. There was no reason to configure everything from the start on a server where a player with too high ego can kick you again, and cause additional 6 hours of work to reconfigure stuff.
At the end, when I tried to invite players to a new Server, you first banned me, then deleted your Server completely. So we lost around 70 users.
This is how you care about the community.
Talking about the contribution: There are players who did more than you, who haven't got any title and don't expect "fireworks". I still appreciate your help with testing few years ago, but that's it. You told me that the "Discord idea was your", and that's why you're important. Totally skipping the fact I'm the one who spent 99.9% more time than you coding stuff for it. 95% of players on Server joined thanks to my invitations by EE2 Media, Website, Launcher Notification, Direct e-mail or WhatsApp contact. So if you think creating a server name, and then setting few channels is something that deserves endless respect and permissions for God knows what, then there is no hope left.
I was about to post screenshots from this situation, but there were so many users online who saw your behavior and nonsense, that's it's not even needed. I'm sure some of them will confirm it in this topic.
Added after 3 hours 51 minutes 15 seconds:Due to repeating questions from players about this situation, some things need to be explained with more details... and screenshots. It seems like in the first post TheGrouchDE is trying to change facts and play the "victim" himself.
1. The situation started by the following message:
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I have read this message when I woke up, and I couldn't understand where the problem is. I spent few minutes searching for a message I sent that would be suitable to those accusations. I didn't find, and I asked TheGrouch to show a proof of what he means.
I heard that he is not home, so I told him to find it when he is home, because false accusations are disrespectful as well. Few hours later, the subject was continued by TheGrouchDE, so I repeated my question about the proof. As the answer I read "you know you did".
2. I decided to move the discussion public. I sent a message on a public Discord asking @everyone if ever seen a situation like this.
A few players joined discussion and wrote that it never happened. One of those players was "MidouGhost". TheGrouche's excuse was that he is on this server for too short... But MidouGhost mentioned he is there for almost 1 year.
I repeated my request to show the proof (screenshot, whatever), and TheGrouch claimed it was on "removed channels". This made me shocked even more, because
those channels were removed over 6 months ago. So I couldn't understand the reason of bringing such accusations now.
Those are the last messages, before the "server owner" kicked me out:
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To not admit to his error, we could read "Not always means always"... And then "You're acting like a kid now".
After that I was kicked out, so I don't know what happened next, but some players shocked by this situation informed me what's going on.
3. Kicking me out, caused the BOT who is assigned to my account to lose Discord API / channel webhooks permissions. To set it back, I needed around 6 hours of work, to get tokens, set channels, etc. I had to edit a lot of files. I decided to start a new Guild, where I'm the owner, and where it's impossible to sabotage my work this way.
Meanwhile I got the following message:
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I spent hours setting everything on a new Server. It required quite a lot of work, edition of files previously coded by me, generating new webhooks, testing permissions, etc. When it was close to perfection, I rejoined the old Discord and I sent the following message on general chat:
Dear EE2 players.
The "creator" of the "Empire Earth 2" Discord Server has decided to kick me out. The "kick" has also affected the MonaBOT (inviting function, integration with the multiplayer lobby, support chat, news etc.). Adding features to make that Discord better was extremely time consuming. A Server re-join would now require another hours of setting things up with the API/Webhooks. I was invited "back", but I decided to create a new Server instead.
Therefore, I'd like to kindly ask everyone to join the new Server, with the same features as the previous one, using the following link:
Link
Thank you.
Few seconds later, the message was removed. 10 seconds later, TheGrouch banned my account, to not be able to join it again.
As first this message was supposed to be in a longer version, but we decided to not escalate this conflict and reduce it. I'm posting the original version now:
Dear EE2 players.
The "creator" of the "Empire Earth 2" Discord Server - TheGrouchDE has decided to kick me out, for a reason as stupid as accusing me of "critizing" his warnings to users. This was not true, he was not able to prove his statement, so the discussion moved public. Screenshots will be posted later at the EE2.eu BLOG. The "kick" has also affected the MonaBOT (inviting function, integration with the multiplayer lobby, support chat, news etc.). Adding features to make that Discord better was extremely time consuming. A Server re-join would now require another hours of setting things up with the API. I was invited "back", but I decided to create a new Server, where an owner with too high ego and a little contribution won't be able to sabotage it ever again.
Therefore, I'd like to kindly ask everyone to join the new Server, with the same features as the previous one, using the following link:
Link
Thank you.
4. After this, I decided to make a revenge and kick TheGrouchDE from Unofficial Patch 1.5 for 30minutes to 1 hour. This is when he started playing the "victim". Then the drama continued on the channel and he told to people that "Mona doesn't want to discuss it", while 5 minutes ago he simply kicked me out
for the second time. Some players noticed it. He sent ban threats to other users as well (for example Scorpio).
Finally, the truth has won and players started quitting the server where he was the owner to join mine. Shortly we collected 20 of most active people.
5. User "June" tried to calm the situation down, and she created a channel with 3 of us... Of course it didn't go well:
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A person who has received the "vice President" title claims I don't "appreciate" his help. A person who was the only one (except me) who was able to ban/mute players on the Support Chat / Lobby commands, much earlier before Discord was created. A person who was even able to restart the Multiplayer Lobby when needed says he wasn't "appreciated".
I myself have database access. I wouldn't need to create tools like ban/mute commands if I was the only person able to to this. TheGrouchDE had the big power for contribution sometimes lower than other players, who didn't expect "fireworks" just to feel important.
All those permissions made him feel like he has some super power, that he can even do shit against me, and all this will be forgiven. But no, it won't be forgiven.
TheGroch helped me with some "testing", which I thought he likes. Everyone would actually like to do this. I never expected it would ever be used as an argument of "super contribution". Few years ago, TheGrouch was active on the Support Chat, helping players when I was offline. I very liked it, because it felt just nice to not be alone with everything. As a reward he had Minister title, while not doing game mods for around 6 years, special rights that even other active Ministers don't have, then "vice president" title, giving even more permissions. What can we hear for that? That Mona doesn't care! That Mona doesn't appreciate his help!
So the question is, what else were TheGrouch expectations? Being some Supreme of the community?
I have followed many Grouch requests in development, even when I was disagreeing with some. As one example is "ban" for "Hitler" nicknames (which are actually pretty common in other communities). I didn't protest about it, I coded required functions on his request. I'm not saying it was a bad idea, but I'm showing that I'm trying to award him with features.
Except "tests", when TheGrouch kept the Ministrial title, I asked him to help me with few things:
A. Check which EE2 maps included in the patch are bad, and remove them.
Result: I waited few weeks. He didn't even start working on it, simply delaying without honest answer "DO IT YOURSELF".
B. Make screenshots of remaining EE2 Maps, so they could be used at EE2.eu to describe all game maps before loading.
Result: It was never done.
C. Translate some lines of UP1.5 texts to German. He actually proposed to do it himself, so I refused help from other players who also wanted to do this.
Result: 4 months later, not a single line was translated.
I could be mentioning more things like this, but it's almost as low as level of TheGrouch accusations. I was understanding that he has no time. I was understanding that he has life. But all this didn't stop him from having high expectations regarding his "power" or "titles" in the community.
Besides what I just wrote, I have NEVER MADE ANY PROBLEM OF IT.
6. When players started joining the new Guild, TheGrouch decided to delete the one where he is the owner. It didn't give us any chance to invite players who were currently in it. So efforts like my personal contacting players by e-mail, WhatsApp, EE2 Media, Launcher/Lobby messages got fucked.
I will be able to add all players who were previously on a Server thanks to joining database which stores their nicknames. It will multiple the amount of time needed.
Conclusion:
After today's (12 hours now) of work and sleepless night, I can definitely say that all the "contribution" provided by TheGrouch is worth less than that (including my health which I wasted on nerves).
So yeah, continue playing the victim, talk shit about quitting EE2.
The reason why you quit is because without the "power" you had, you will never feel the same way. You loved to correct players, you loved to send them warning threats (situation from 2017, where after long inactivity you joined the lobby saying "how important you are" to some people that joked around and could be potentially offensive towards you).
I would be glad if some people who saw the situation, or have extra information would approve it in this topic. That would end the bullshit once forever.
By the way, I'm not a person who would "ban" for things like that. The biggest punishment has already been issued. TheGrouchDE can use UP1.5 and Multiplayer features with no problem. Crying about today's kick from UP1.5, done in anger is very hypocritical, when we realize he banned me from "his" Discord for over 7 hours.
Thank you, next.