RPS not working correctly
RPS not working correctly
Hey guys.
I've noticed, while doing some tests for some tweaks I want to do (I want to make the stat difference between early and later units more pronounced), that heavy infantry doesn't have a bonus when attacking light artillery. In fact, it has a small malus. I tested with man at arms vs ballista, and machine gunner vs field artillery. Same thing with heavy mounted vs heavy artillery, they cause less than default damage.
I also tested separately with siege gun vs machine gun tank and gun tank, and the siege gun actually made more damage to the machine gun tank (the supposed counter) than to the gun tank (light mounted).
I use unnoficial patch, latest version. Does that change the RPS rules?
I've noticed, while doing some tests for some tweaks I want to do (I want to make the stat difference between early and later units more pronounced), that heavy infantry doesn't have a bonus when attacking light artillery. In fact, it has a small malus. I tested with man at arms vs ballista, and machine gunner vs field artillery. Same thing with heavy mounted vs heavy artillery, they cause less than default damage.
I also tested separately with siege gun vs machine gun tank and gun tank, and the siege gun actually made more damage to the machine gun tank (the supposed counter) than to the gun tank (light mounted).
I use unnoficial patch, latest version. Does that change the RPS rules?
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Re: RPS not working correctly
Unofficial Patch doesn't change RPS, however it should.
The reason of it is: There are many players who like the current RPS, who are used to it on Multiplayer, etc. Changing it would make people dislike the patch, that's why I decided to keep the orginal RPS, which is... not so perfect.
You can modify the RPS yourself, it's in file: zips\db_150.zip\db\Simulation\dbcomba5.csv (for EE2) and zips_ee2x\ee2x_db_150.zip.... (EE2: AOS).
The reason of it is: There are many players who like the current RPS, who are used to it on Multiplayer, etc. Changing it would make people dislike the patch, that's why I decided to keep the orginal RPS, which is... not so perfect.
You can modify the RPS yourself, it's in file: zips\db_150.zip\db\Simulation\dbcomba5.csv (for EE2) and zips_ee2x\ee2x_db_150.zip.... (EE2: AOS).
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Re: RPS not working correctly
Thanks, I'll check it out. Modding is somehow very addictive.
It's strange though, that in-game info is contradicted by the actual game balance.
The unofficial patch is great btw.
It's strange though, that in-game info is contradicted by the actual game balance.
The unofficial patch is great btw.
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Re: RPS not working correctly
Thank you, I'm happy that you like it.
Remember that game balance also depends on selected game pace. For example with fast pace all units get damaged much faster.
Remember that game balance also depends on selected game pace. For example with fast pace all units get damaged much faster.
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Re: RPS not working correctly
I have another question. I have modded the upgrade_unittype5 file successfully, but changes aren't showing up in-game. Is there some other file I've missed?
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Re: RPS not working correctly
First of all - what type of changes? Can you give an example? Remeber that this file is in ee2x_db_150.zip if you're modding on Ee2 aos.
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Re: RPS not working correctly
I changed the hitpoints of bowmen, just as a test. And yeah, I modified AoS.
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Re: RPS not working correctly
Should work then. Also check .ddf files from db.zip/db/Units. Sometimes there are unit upgrades there.
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Re: RPS not working correctly
No luck.
I unzipped the db file, tweaked a few things to test whether they'd work, and rezipped the changed version, but the game doesn't seem to read the changes.
I unzipped the db file, tweaked a few things to test whether they'd work, and rezipped the changed version, but the game doesn't seem to read the changes.
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Re: RPS not working correctly
Make a test: Change costs of Sniper unit in upgrade_unittype5.csv (set it to cost 9999 food or something) and see if game reads it.
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